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Gay Marriage PSA Spoof

Aliza Hausman

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Warning, some of you will be offended. Some of you will laugh.

19 thoughts on “Gay Marriage PSA Spoof”

  4. Aliza,

    Being an Orthodox Jew and the wife of a future Orthodox rabbi, you SHOULD know the answer to that.

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  6. Some of my favorite Orthodox Jews support gay marriage! They recognize that protecting families is a good thing, and that American legal definitions have nothing to do with Halachic definitions. After all, is someone really married in Judaism just because the state says so? Of course not, we only care about erusin and kiddushin. But it's a travesty that individuals who build a home together in love and mutual support should be denied the kind of legal protections that other people have, just because they're gay.

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  8. Aliza, Alan,

    Male homosexuality is against the Torah. There is no wiggle room here to justify gay marriage. Even YCT certainly does not support gay marriage. I wonder if your future YCT rabbi husband supports gay marriage too, against the teaching of his school.

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  11. Wow Aliza,

    You're in for a wake up call. In most Orthodox communities a rabbi/rebbetzin are viewed as a package deal.

    You're delusional if you don't think that supporting “anti-Torah” doesn't affect him to.

    How hypocritcal, you let the genies out of the bottle, but expect everyone else to shove it back in.

    Best of luck!

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  12. Anonymous, you are not a nice person. I do not live in a bubble. And lucky for me, I do not live in your bubble.

    Contrary to popular belief, some people will understand that my husband and I were separated in the womb. They already do. If they can't. I'll blog about it. I'll talk about it. And they'll learn.

    I have had many wake-up calls in my life and if you think this is going to be the scariest one, then you are sadly mistaken. Go back to Aliza Chapter 2 where I watched my sister get beaten in the head with rollerblades and my mother sat me on me and almost suffocated me to stop my screaming.

    I very much so live in reality and I am not, as you say, delusional.

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  13. I post anonymously for fear of backlash against this position.

    The Torah does not allow a Jewish man to cohabit with another Jewish male. This is partly due to the mission the Jewish people are charged with to produce offspring and be a giving human being in the greatest possible manner

    It does not say that non Jewish men may not co-habit. Further, supporting Gay marriage in no way will induce more or less men to be homosexual. They are homosexual the only issue is whether to give their marriage the recognized rights of heterosexual couples.

    The Torah has no opinion on civil rights of a gay couple. It is not against USA law to be homosexual. What right does a Torah Jew have to deny them civil rights?!!?

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  14. Actually, the torah is not really anti male homosexuality or gay marriage, it's against using rape as a tool for humiliating other males. I believe that it's mentioned 4 times in the tenakh and in every context “man lying with another man” has to do with dominance, humiliation, and power, i.e. prohibitions against rape. It doesn't think of a “man lying with another man” as a consensual adult relationship, which is what homosexual relationships are.

    Also, it's extremely ambivalent about female homosexuality, showing that homosexuality is not really the problem. It's anxious about homosexuality only when it has to do with penetration, humiliation, and wasting of the seed (of future generations (and in this realm, sex without pregnancy is also culpable)).

    Just a thought. Aliza, I enjoy your writing very much.

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  15. Just want to correct two points

    1) Erusin/Kiddushin are the same thing. Nissuin is the next step (or final step).

    2) “Noahides are prohibited from engaging in six illicit sexual relationships: … in a male homosexual union…(Maimonides, Laws of Kings, 9:5).

    3) Lastly, to Michal and all- I would welcome all Jews to my shul including those who may not be shomer shabbos yet, or those for whatever reason are not attracted to members of the opposite sex

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  18. Before I decided to convert to Judaism, I embraced capitalism,and I still do. Ironically, the capitalists who were my inspiration were largely Jewish, like Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman.

    As a capitalist, I support same sex marriage legally, as marriage is a legal contract, and I support the right of two legal adults to engage in a contract. Perhaps this is one reason that Communist governments so heavily persecuted homosexuals.

    Now, I don't support the judiciary legalizing same sex marriage; I want it done by the legislature, as New Hampshire has done, and while California's SC has caused a setback, nullifying a plebiscite is not a good idea, and in ten years, same sex marriage will be legalized by plebiscite, so it's only a matter of patience.

    Halachically, it's a trickier issue. Torah has stated some stuff contrary to it, and we can't nullify that in the name of progress, so I leave it up to rabbis far more learned than me to determine that, and more power to them if they can change the current rules.

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